My climate/weather thoughts

by Bobby Pine
(Knoxville,TN,USA)

this is what TN snow looks like; wimpy. It melts while it accumlates weird.

this is what TN snow looks like; wimpy. It melts while it accumlates weird.

My fight for local truth and digital air power - Your backyard holds the biggest secrets about climate, and the official weather map doesn't tell the whole story. What's with the crazy snow totals and the math behind our weather models if the planet's warming?

Comment from Bobby: I do believe the climate is getting warmer and I think the weather is becoming much more severe because of this.

Climate and weather are different. The more moisture in the atmosphere means higher precip totals liquid or frozen.

I also think the planet goes through cycles and we are coming back to a cold snowy climate here in the past few years.

I live in Knoxville Tennessee and it doesn't snow much but the past two years; its been colder and snowier here. We haven't seen this since the late 70's and early 80's. December 2010, we have had 3 snow events, not heavy accumulations but each storm it snowed lightly for 2-3 days each with snow depth ranging from 6-10" on the plateau to 4-8" in the valley and 15-40" in the smoky mountains. This is unusual for this time of year.

Our temperatures have been running in the mid 30's for highs to teens for lows. This is 10-15 degrees colder for this time of year. January is our coldest and snowiest month. We usually have a 2 week stretch of sub freezing temps.

In '09 (January), we had 2 weeks of temps in the 20's for highs and lows -1 to 10 above and the rivers froze enough to walk on. In 20 years I never seen this happen.

I'm expecting this January to be even worse and I think sometime before the warm up in March we will get that storm we been dreaming of. Personally, I'd like to see a storm of 6-12" or more hit us. This would be great; I haven't seen snow like that since I left New York in 1990.

I think it's coming and so far this year has the most promising forecast yet. I won't get excited 'til it happens.

Barry's Response - An advocate for huge snowfalls and wintery weather. I like it.

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Why Snow Doesn't Care About Global Warming🌬️

Hey! You clicked My climate/weather thoughts because you saw the title and maybe you know the official narrative, but your own eyes tell a different story. That makes sense. I use advanced Fluid Dynamics calculations to predict a six-inch snowstorm. I'm watching Knoxville, Tennessee, get frostier than a forgotten smoothie in a freezer, and I'm wondering: What's going on?

Atmosphere isn't a math problem, it's a chaotic masterpiece

Here's where the raw, real science starts. The atmosphere is a non-linear dynamic system. The foundation of theoretical meteorology is this. It's like a beautiful, terrifying machine where a tiny change today can have a huge impact weeks later. Forecasting beyond about ten days is a dice roll, and projecting a century of global climate change requires humility and dissent.

The colder, snowier winters in Knoxville aren't wrong, they're dictated by massive regional atmospheric hiccups called Teleconnections.
  • Polar Vortex Case Study. Whenever the Polar Vortex, the big wind pattern encircling the Arctic, wobbles (a meteorological term, seriously! ), it pushes ice cold air south, sometimes all the way to Tennessee. An uneven heating of the Arctic can lead to this, which, ironically, some cutting-edge research attributes to the very warming trends we talk about! Warming doesn't mean everyone gets warm all the time; it can rearrange the cold. Here's an example of a counter-narrative that uses the data to support a different, but credible, scientific conclusion.

Stewardship over statues: The Aquatic Debate

The pushback from conservatives and skeptics on the aquatic environment often makes a crucial point: The oceans have colossal natural variability. It's true that deep-ocean circulation cycles like the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) affect global heat transfer a lot. It's hard to track these cycles because they move heat, not create it.

Here's my fusion of principles - a heartfelt appeal to both sides:
  • Let's embrace "stewardship" instead of "saving" the planet. We're responsible for the corner of the universe we inhabit. We don't need climate models to agree that dumping pollution is a moral and economic mistake, whether it's industrial effluent or plastic waste. Oceans and rivers keep us alive. It's a Logical Planner's job to protect their clarity and health.

The Air Quality Rebellion revolutionizes the field

If you read the article about air quality consulting jobs - the kind where you need to run software like AERMOD and CALPUFF to ensure industrial emissions are compliant. It's good, but it's reactive. This is like studying a fire after it's already started.

Here's my controversial new idea: Scrap the compliance model. By making the data unassailable and universal, we can increase the chance of a good use of knowledge.
  • Atmospheric Sentinel Network: I want to build a global, decentralized network of inexpensive, resilient sensors that collect hyper-local air and weather data. The data would be verified on a Blockchain-style ledger, generating a real-time 3D Atmospheric Tomography.
  • Data gatekeeping is shattered. Instead of arguing over complex, black-box models, we democratize air quality. This forces constant optimization for industry, not just compliance, and gives citizens a non-negotiable right to know about their environment. As a result, the discussion changes from who's wrong to what we can do to fix it.
It's the future. It's defiant, it's driven by science, and it solves real problems. Here's my climate/weather thoughts backed by Fluid Dynamics and the conviction that we can be responsible stewards without giving up our intellectual freedom.

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🤩 It's my hope that this deep dive into my climate/weather thoughts has sparked your inner inventor! Our discussion covered the non-linear math behind the Polar Vortex and proposed a revolutionary way to handle air quality data.

Do you think a decentralized Atmospheric Sentinel Network makes sense, or do you think big government models are the only way to deal with climate change? Let's debate in the comments!

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snow and music
by: ken

I tell what the snow here in Tennessee may have diminished since the 80s and so did the good music, most famous of Nashville aka music city. It beats most of today's music hands down, people's common sense driving in both snow and rain has sadly disappeared too.

From Barry - Hello, Ken! 🎸 That's a trifecta of truth! You've linked the chaotic beauty of the atmosphere with the complex, non-linear chaos of a good guitar riff and, let's be honest, modern traffic. It's cool.

❄️ Diminished snow and sonic waves - You touch on a core meteorology concept: hydrological extremes.

- Snow vs. Music (The 80s Vibe): Your memory of 80s snow matches mine perfectly. It's all about the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). There's a massive pressure seesaw in the North Atlantic that dictates the track of storm systems and Arctic air invasions. There were those memorable, snowy runs in the South in the 70s and 80s when the NAO was consistently negative. Recent patterns (last couple of decades) have leaned more positive, pushing storms north. Maybe the NAO was just feeling sassier back then?

- Driving Common Sense (The Fluid Dynamics Connection): You're seeing the real-world impact of surface friction and fluid dynamics! The coefficient of friction between tires and the road drops dramatically when it rains or snows. "Common sense" driving is just people forgetting that tires can only displace so much water or slush (Q = V x A, where Q is volume flow rate, V is velocity, and A is area). Your tires have more contact area with the pavement when you slow down! It might be a good idea for all drivers to study hydroplaning.

There was a lot of atmospheric and acoustic intensity in the 80s. It's time to bring back the classic hits...as well as classic snow patterns. I appreciate you bringing the righteous indignation.

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Knoxville Snow
by: Anonymous

I am a certified weather spotter for Anderson County, TN. We are located about 25 miles NNW of Knoxville. Last year, I recorded 27.4" for the entire month including that 11-day stretch of sub-freezing temps. This year so far since December 1st, I have recorded 37.4". I have always been told that Feb and March are the snowiest times of the year down here, so I am also anticipating the "big" one before spring.

We shall see what happens,
Jeff Peterson
Skywarn Weather Observer, Anderson County, TN
865-386-5961

From Barry - - Thanks, Jeff, for the info. It's been an interesting year so far.

You're the perfect Logical Planner! It's awesome to have a Skywarn Weather Observer drop hard data into my climate/weather thoughts.

🧊 Local extremes and teleconnections

Your incredible data, 37.4" before the snowiest months, supports the entire premise of our discussion: Global trends don't erase fierce local variability.
  • The sub-freezing stretch (Meteorology): You mentioned an 11-day stretch. It's not just "cold," this is likely a deep southward plunge of the Polar Vortex (as we discussed). Here's what you're seeing: A strong meridional (North-South) flow pattern, which delivers more extreme temperatures and allows warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico to collide with Arctic air masses further south.
  • Feb/March Anticipation (Climatology): You're right on the climatology. Snowfall in the Southern Appalachians peaks in late winter/early spring. Why? As the sun angle climbs, immense moisture is injected into the system, but the upper atmosphere is still cold enough to support major snowfalls. It's the perfect combination of atmospheric ingredients.
  • (The Sassy Tangent): When you have long stretches of very cold, stable air (like that 11-day freeze), the atmosphere can get really stagnant. Pollutants like particulate matter (dust) and NOx can pool near the surface, which is a nightmare for air quality consultants. Whether it's snow or a cold snap, extreme weather has a direct, immediate impact on public health.
Jeff, keep that precipitation gauge handy. Local observations highlight the chaos that models can't capture, driving the future of atmospheric science. When you find a new Teleconnection pattern, name it after your precipitation gauge! Thank you for sharing the numbers.

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