We arent harming THE environment we are harming the HUMAN enviroment

by (sheepborg)

The Subsiding of the Waters by Thomas Cole <br>The Birth of a new Earth

The Subsiding of the Waters by Thomas Cole
The Birth of a new Earth

The Earth will be fine, but your lungs won't - Earth is a survivor, but the dirty air in your town is killing you right now. Let's use science and sass to revolutionize how we protect our community's water and air.

Start us off, Sheepborg: With what we are doing we will make the planet a place where us humans cannot live, but we can be sure that there will be wildlife that will adapt and live on.

If we were really harming THE environment then it would guarantee that all life would suffer. Humans are so self-centered we think we ARE the world yet we separate ourselves from nature when speaking of the great outdoors.

We want ourselves to be a higher form of life when we are just another animal; one that is particularly savage. Our 'nests' are a little bigger and we think we own territory.

Realization is not something that the common human is capable of. That is why we cannot win vs ourselves. Nature cannot die but it can change.

Barry's Response - The earth will outlive us. We are a disease; the planet shall find a cure. Theoretically, anyways. Thanks for your thoughts, Sheepborg.

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Climate Wars: A fresh Take

We're not harming the environment, we're harming humans. That title slaps. This is the ultimate truth bomb we need to drop on the whole tired environmental debate. We've been told to worry about saving the planet for too long, like Earth is some delicate flower.

What's the truth? There have been five mass extinction events on Earth -- volcanoes, ice ages, meteors. You can tell she's a survivor. In a few thousand years, a new equilibrium would settle in if we disappeared tomorrow. Thomas Cole's painting, The Subsiding of the Waters, shows nature reclaiming a post-diluvian world centuries ago. Nature can't die, but it can change.

Stop worrying about THE environment - it'll be fine. We need to clean up the mess we've made of the human environment.

Pollution is the real emergency: Your breath, your battle

💨 Our brains automatically jump to carbon dioxide and global models when we talk about industry and the environment. As the climate debate rages on Twitter, something much more urgent is happening: air quality.

Despite being a clever, tool-using animal, you're still an animal, and your health relies on the air and water right beside you. The Meteorologist's Goth Truth:
  1. It's not just greenhouse gases that hold heat. Particulate Matter (PM2.5, PM10) - tiny bits of soot and chemicals from cars, factories, and fires. They don't just float off to the stratosphere, they get stuck in your lungs and blood.
  2. Sometimes cold air gets trapped under a layer of warmer air. It's called an inversion layer. Warm air traps industrial emissions and car exhaust near the ground like a lid on a pot. It's a short-term, localized toxic cloud that spikes asthma and heart attacks, not a long-term climate disaster. It's a crime against the HUMAN environment when industries make your neighborhood unlivable.
  3. There's a valid, powerful point reasonable people make, especially those with an agricultural background: property rights and local control matter. When your local river feeds your farm, or your kid's lake is poisoned by runoff, who cares about a global treaty? Taking good care of your community's wealth and health isn't just being green; it's stewardship. It's about being a responsible tenant, not a savage.

Citizens' Air Sovereignty: A Revolutionary Idea

🔬 Environmental consulting firms and slow government compliance (like needing an air quality dispersion modelling specialist) are boring, expensive, and slow.

Let's flip the script. The solution must be local if the problem is local - if "We're not harming the environment, we're harming the human environment."

Equip the people. Don't wait for an ISO 14000 audit. Put an air quality sensor network in every school and community center.
  • Citizen data is collected, not just industry data. Right now, we can see the PM2.5 level on a public dashboard.
  • If a factory's emissions spike during a temperature inversion, the community has instant, unchallengeable proof of their impact. This shifts the debate from global ideology (Do you believe in climate change?) to local science (Why is the air quality outside my kid's school 300% worse today?)
It's the ultimate expression of freedom of thought. With cutting-edge research and technology, we make industry smarter and more accountable to the people they share the air with. Starting with humans, it's about balancing industry and the environment.

This isn't a left-right issue. This is a survival issue. It's logical, selfish, and compassionate to protect our immediate environment - the air we breathe and the water we drink. If our nests are poisoned, how can we be the higher form of life we claim to be?

Get in on the Rebellion!

👇 Do you think "global warming" distracts us from cleaning up our own pollution? Could you invent a revolutionary technology to clean up the air outside your window?

Tell us what you think! You're not wicked; you're the cure for the human environment.

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by: Rebecca

Let's try to assume that the Holy Bible is correct in its tale of the history of this earth, its peoples and creatures, and the circumstances we all find ourselves in. In any given generation during the past 12,000 years, God relates to mankind by His words inspired to men in the past.

The one and only creator, God, did just that - He created the world and all that is in it. Man rebelled and thus sin and all its horrific consequences entered what used to be a paradise.
All the effects of sin can be seen in man's actions and reactions in any given generation, and is also seen in nature. Man won't 'save the planet; (read the end of the BOOK)

God won't save this mess - He has bigger plans, saving the 'fallen' creature (man) and giving him a future, a paradise to live in once again. How has this creator God done this? By sending His only Son, Jesus, to this earth (proven in history) to be the atonement, the sacrifice, the reason there can be a reconciliation to God (the HOLY God) for man, and all creation groans while waiting for the day when faith is made sight.

From Barry - It's an incredibly powerful perspective, and thank you for sharing a foundational view on why humans act the way they do. When you say human nature, or what you call sin, is seen in our actions and even in nature, you hit the nail on the head.

The conversation's title basically says it all: "We're not harming the environment, we're harming the human environment."

If we use the framework of a perfect, created paradise that was "fallen," then the air we breathe and the water we drink right now are just the most immediate, tangible proof of that "fall." In paradise, the air would be pristine; in the fallen state, there's industrial smog.

'Fallen' World Meteorology

- Meteorology studies how human-emitted pollutants interact with natural atmospheric processes. These emissions are often called anthropogenic (meaning they come from humans). Sin's effects translate directly to anthropogenic aerosols and gases in air quality science.

- When you say "all creation groans," we see it scientifically in things like acid rain and ground-level ozone. Industry emits nitrogen oxides (NOx) and sulphur dioxide (SO2). Water vapor reacts with them to form sulphuric and nitric acids, which fall as acid rain. It damages forests, soil, and aquatic life, literally making the earth groan.

You talk about God's plan for saving people, but the biblical principle of stewardship (caring for the garden) gives us a current, immediate responsibility. While we can't 'save the planet', we can practice responsible, ethical care for the air and water that God provided for our sustenance. While we wait for the ultimate 'new Earth,' cleaning up the HUMAN environment is perhaps the most practical, loving, and obedient thing we can do.

It's clear: Human choices have created a difficult, degraded local habitat, whether you look at it from a theological or scientific perspective. We need to fix what we can control-our immediate surroundings-with the responsibility of a good tenant, not a savage. I really appreciate your insight!
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by: Anonymous

This is one of the better comments that I have read on this subject.

From Barry - Hey, you're the best. Thanks for the awesome compliment. We appreciate when people see past the noise and appreciate the honest, sometimes defiant, way we're framing this huge issue.

There's a lot of back-and-forth about abstract climate models. The title, "We're not harming THE environment, we're harming the human environment," was intentionally used to force a change of focus, and your comment confirms it!

Shifted Focus: The Science
  • What makes this perspective better? It's tangible and immediate. People tune out when they feel like they're debating a global system they can't control (like the long-term carbon cycle). The problem becomes real, measurable, and solvable when we talk about local air quality and asthma rates.
  • Measurable Metrics: This perspective prioritizes health metrics that matter. Instead of tracking global CO2 parts per million, we track Air Quality Index (AQI) values, which are calculated based on pollutants like ozone, sulfur dioxide, and particulate matter.
  • We wanted to find a position that appealed to both sides:

    - Left: Satisfied with industry accountability and pollution cleanup.

    - Right: Satisfied with local control, personal responsibility, and challenging global, top-down narratives.
It's sophisticated and accessible, cutting through the ideology to the raw human consequences. Thanks for seeing the cleverness and insight we put into this! We hope you'll stick around and join the discussion!

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